>>> BILL HAUGLAND HAS BEEN WITH CTV MONTREAL FOR 46 YEARS AND ANCHOR OF ITS TOP-RATED ENGLISH LANGUAGE EVENING NEWS BROADCAST FOR NEARLY 30.

THIS HIGHLY RESPECTED PROFESSIONAL HAS SEEN IT ALL.

BILL HAUGLAND IS MY GUEST, NEXT ON "PROFILE."

♪♪ >>> BILL HAUGLAND WAS BROUGHT UP IN MONTREAL, BUT SPENT MUCH OF HIS SUMMERS ON MISSISSQUOI BAY IN VERMONT.

HE STUDIED AT RYERSON AND CONCORDIA UNIVERSITIES.

IN 1961, HE BEGAN WORKING AT CTV IN THE MAILROOM, LATER TO BECAME A RADIO, THEN TV REPORTER, AND IN 1977 BEGAN TO ANCHOR THE EVENING NEWS, WHERE HE WAS A STEADY AND TRUSTED FIGURE FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS.

HAUGLAND HAS COVERED ALL THE MAJOR EVENTS OF THE LAST 45 YEARS: THE CELEBRATIONS OF EXPO '67, THE TURBULENT YEARS OF QUEBEC'S STRUGGLE OVER INDEPENDENCE, THE BRUTAL ICE STORM OF '98 AND THE RECENT AFTERMATH OF THE DAWSON COLLEGE SHOOTINGS.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, HAUGLAND WAS HONORED WITH A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FROM THE RADIO-TELEVISION NEWS DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION OF CANADA.

HE RETIRED IN DECEMBER TO HIS HOME IN HIGHGATE SPRINGS, VERMONT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> FANTASTIC.

>> YEP.

>> HOW ARE YOU SURVIVING THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF RETIREMENT?

>> I KEEP TELLING MY CITY FRIENDS WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTRY YOU ARE NEVER AT A LOSS FOR THINGS TO DO.

THE WOOD FILE THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSTANTLY WORRY ABOUT AND SNOW SHOVELING AND ALL THE VARIOUS CHORES THAT GO ALONG WITH LIVING WHERE WE WANT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY.

I HAVE ENJOYED IT SO FAR, FRAN.

YOU KNOW, I THINK OFTEN OF HOW WONDERFUL IT IS NOT TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT DRIVE UP THE 133 TO MONTREAL WHICH I DID FOR SO MANY YEARS.

>> I KNOW.

>> WITH THE WHITEOUTS THAT OFTEN OCCUR I HAVE HAD MANY ADVENTURES ON THE HIGHWAY AND I'M PROBABLY LUCKY TO STILL BE HERE.

>> I CAN IMAGINE.

WHAT WAS YOUR BEST TIME TON THAT COMMUTE?

>> ONE TIME BECAUSE I USED TO TO BOTH THE EARLY AND THE LATE NEWS AND I WOULD GET HOME SOMETIMES AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING, SEVERAL WORKHORSES BROKEN OUT OF A FARMER'S FIELD AND I WADOING I GUESS ABOUT 65-MILES AN HOUR ALONG 133 WITH WHICH IS BEYOND THE ST.

PETERSBURG LIMIT, I SUPPOSE I SHOULD -- *R BEYOND THE SPEED LIMIT, I SUPPOSE I SHOULDN'T ADMIT TO THAT AND I SKINNED BY THIS ANIMAL AND HERE WAS THIS WORKHORSE AND I MISSED IT BY FOUR INCHES AND IT WAS SO TALL I COULDN'T SEE ITS HEAD.

>> IT WAS A MOOSE.

>> IT WAS IN FACT A HORSE.

IT WAS AND I STOPPED AND WENT BACK TO THE NEAREST FARM AND WOKE UP THE FAMILY AND I SAID I THINK YOUR HORSES HAVE ESCAPED.

IT IS A VERY CLOSE CALL AND MANY TIMES WITH DEER THE VERY SAME KIND OF THING.

>> EARLY ON, DID YOU ALWAYS INSPIRE TO BE INVOLVED IN TELEVISION NEWS AND RADIO?

>> I WANTED TO BE A PHYS ED TEACHER WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I WAS A GYMNAST AND DREAMED OF DOING SOMETHING IN THAT FIELD.

MY FATHER WAS AN ADVERTISING EXECUTIVE, AN ACCOUNT SCEK PIV WITH J. WALTER THOMPSON, McCLARE RENS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT FIRMS, OFTING TAKING THE ACCOUNTS WITH HIM AS IS THE CASE WITH THE BUSINESS.

WOUND UP ON THE LABATT 50 ACCOUNT AND FINALLY SORT OF -- I WAS -- IN OTHER WORDS, I WAS EXPOSED TO MEDIA ALL OF MY LIFE.

>> RIGHT, SURE.

>> AND SORT OF LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO, HE GOT ME A SUMMER JOB WITH GORD SINCLAIR WHO RAN A SMALL RADIO STATION CALLED SEA FOX AND HE RECOMMENDED THAT I HAD SOME NATIVE TALENT AND RECOMMENDED ME TO CJAD WHICH IN TURN SPONSORED ME TO THAT COURSE AT RYIERSON INSTITUTE AND THAT WAS THE CANADIAN ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS NOW C.R.T.C.

COURSE AND I CAME I THINK WITHIN THE TOP FIVE IN THE CLASS AND THERE WERE ABOUT 150 OF US.

RON RUSCH WHO DID THE SPORTS WITH US FOR MANY YEARS WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND WOUND UP GETTING THE JOB.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT A MON TAJ OF MOMENTS OF YOUR LIFE IN JOURNALISM GATHERED BY YOUR PALS AT CTV FOR YOUR RETIREMENT PARTY.

>> THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB.

>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> ON THE FRONT PAGE.

DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE IS TOO MUCH SYMBOLISM AND TOO LITTLE POSITIVE ACTION?

>> DO YOU AS A GROUP ADVOCATE THE KIND OF VIOLENCE THAT OCCURRED AT YOUR DOORS?

>> A REQUEST UNCONFIRMED HAS BEEN MADE FROM THE F.L.Q.

FOR BERNARD -- >> GLEN IS STILL INVOLVED WITH THE WEATHER.

IT IS A THIRSTY PROBLEM.

>> I JUST HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OF THE -- >> I GATHER THAT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

>> I THINK THAT'S BAD.

I WANT TO BE WHERE THE MEP ARE.

>> GOOD EVENING I'M BILL HAUGLAND.

>> GOOD EVENING, DOWNTOWN MONTREAL IS A MESS TONIGHT.

>> THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY CHOOSE THE MOST SERIOUS STORIES.

>> I OFTEN WONDER HOW IT IS POSSIBLE THAT I COULD HAVE HAD A HAIR CUT LIKE THAT AND SURVIVED IN THIS BUSINESS.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU WERE SO CUTE.

>> OH, THANK YOU.

>> SO TO GO BACK, THE JOHN LENNON AND YOKO ONO IS AMAZING.

THERE WAS A MOVE OF REPORTERS.

WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE YOU COULDN'T GET A WORD OUT OF JOHN.

>> STH STORY SEEMS TO HAVE FOLLOWED ME THROUGH MY CAREER WAWS BECAUSE AT THE ANNIVERSARY OF THAT BED IN AS THEY CALL IT IT IS RECALLED BY RADIO STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS IN MONTREAL SO I'M OFTEN ASKED WHAT WERE MY IMPRESSIONS OF THAT DAY.

OF BOTH JOHN AND YOKO.

YOKO WAS COMMUNICATIVE.

JOHN NOT SO MUCH.

AND PROBABLY THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED WASN'T APPEALING TO HIM AND THAT WAS BASICALLY A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, QUESTION I WAS SAYING LOOK, WHAT IS LYING IN BED HERE AT THE QUEEN ELIZABETH HOTEL GOT TO DO WITH WORLD PEACE?

IT WAS KIND OF A PUBLICITY STUNT.

>> YEAH, THINK THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AN ANSWER.

>> YOKO ANSWERD THAT BUT YAWN WHERE JOHN JUST LOOKED THE OTHER WAY.

>> AND THEN YOU ALSO ANNOUNCED HIS DEATH, OF COURSE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THOSE KIND OF CYCLES HAPPEN OFTEN.

>> I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO COLLECTED MEMORABILIA OVER THE YEARS AND I OFTEN THOUGHT HOW MANY PRIME MINISTERS AND PREMIERS AND MAYORS AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT I HAVE INTERVIEWED ON KNOWN ON A FIRST-NAME BASIS OVER THE YEARS.

>> SURE.

>> AND IT IS VERY TRUE, PEOPLE COME INTO YOUR LIFE AND PASS OUT OF YOUR LIFE AS A JOURNALIST.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE MOST DIFFICULT STORY YOU EVER HAD TO TELL?

>> WELL, I THINK -- I THINK THE WHOLE QUIET REVOLUTION IN THE '60S LEADING TO THE QUEBEC WAR AND BOMBINGS THAT OCCURRED IN MONTREAL AND ULTIMATELY THE OCTOBER CRISIS WHERE THE MINISTER PIERRE LAPORTE WAS MURDERED AND THE KIDNAPPING OF BRITISH DIPLOMAT JAMES CROSS.

ALL OF THOSE TIMES.

ONE OCCASION ON SAINT JIM'S STREET I WAS ACTUALLY SITTING ON A BOMB WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT AND I WAS TOLD TO PLEASE LEAVE THE ROOM AT THAT TIME.

>> YEAH.

>> AND I USED TO FOLLOW THE BOMB SQUAD AROUND.

IT WAS AN EXCITING TIME TO BE A YOUNG REPORTER.

>> THIS IS WHEN YOU WERE A YOUNG REPORTER.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

>> WHAT ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN JOURNALISM OVER THE PAST FOUR DECADES?

>> TECHNOLOGICALLY THE CHANGES, THE MULTICHANNEL UNIVERSE THAT WE LIVE IN.

IN THE DAYS OF FILM IT WAS KIND OF EXCITING.

HEY HAD A HELIPORT ON THE ROOF OF THE TELEVISION STATION AND A PAD THAT WE USED IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE SO YOU WOULD TAKE IT TO A LAB FOR PROCESSING AND THEN THE HELICOPTER IN THE EVENT, OF COURSE, THAT YOU WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE DEADLINE WOULD FLY IT NORTH, LAND ON THE ROOF OF THE TELEVISION STATION AND THE REPORTER WOULD WORK WITH THE EDITOR TO GET THAT TO SCRIPT AND ALL THAT SORT OFRYPT THING.

IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TIME.

THE BIGGEST CHANGE NOW IS THE IMMEDIACY.

>> YEAH, INSTANT.

>> LIVE REPORTS ON LOCATION AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SOMETIMES MISUSED, HOWEVER, I THINK.

>> HOW SO?

>> LIVE FOR THE SAKE OF LIVE.

TAKE A DEMONSTRATION OCCURRING IN SOME MAJOR CITY AND YOU HAVE THE REPORTER STANDING THERE READY TO GO AT 6:00 BUT THE DEMONSTRATION FIZZLES AT 5:30, YOU KNOW, IT IS TOO LATE TO BRING THE REPORTER BACK TO THE STATION TO PACKAGE THE PIECE SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE SAYING HONESTLY, A HALF HOUR AGO THERE WERE A THOUSAND PEOPLE HERE.

>> YOU HAVE THE REPUTATION OF BEING COOL UNDER PRESSURE AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A TIME THAT THE PRESSURE POT ALMOST WENT OVER?

CLEARLY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF QUICK DECISIONS.

>>IGHT.

>> ON A REGULAR BASIS.

>> I THINK, FRAN, MY MEN TORE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST -- MENTOR WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ANCHORS ON PULSE NEWS, NOW CTV MONTREAL NEWS, DEAN KAY SAID TO ME IF YOU DON'T HAVE ADRENALINE GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS TRUE OF ALL OF US.

IF WE ARE NOT AT OUR BEST LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE IF WE DON'T FEEL JUST NOT STAGE FRIGHT, IT IS JUST SHARPNESS.

>> YEAH, YEAH.

AN EDGE.

>> YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST STABLE BRAND IMAGE OF CTV THROUGH ALL THE YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS PULSE NEWS.

IT WAS C.F.C.F.

NEWS AND NOW CTV MONTREAL NEWS.

HAVE THOSE CHANGES AFFECTED THE APPROACH TO THE NEWS AT ALL OR IS IT JUST IMAGE STUFF THAT PEOPLE FEEL THEY NEED TO MAKE THE NEWS FRESH?

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY MORE THE GRAPHICS AND BANNERS AND CTV BANNERS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

NOT SO MUCH THE ACTUAL BODY OF THE SHOW.

THE NEWS CONTENT PORTION.

AS I MENTIONED AT MULTICHANNEL UNIVERSE THAT LOCAL TELEVISION STATIONS ARE MUCH IN COMPETITION WITH EACH OTHER AND A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED INVOLVE SOFT NEWS AND SOMETIMES EVEN ENTERTAINMENT PIECES CONSUMER REPORTS.

THERE IS A MIXTURE OF ENTERTAINMENT AND INFORMATION AND IN THE OLD DAYS IT WAS MORE HERE IS THE NEWS AND IF YOU DON'T LISTEN YOU GOING TO MISS SOMETHING IMPORTANT WHEREAS THERE IS MORE ENTERTAINMENT WORKED INTO A NEWS HOUR THESE DAYS THAN THERE USED TO BE.

>> BUT YOU FEEL THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEWS, YOU GRG TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.

>> NO QUESTION.

AS AN ANCHOR OUT OF MONTREAL I WAS ALSO A LINEUP EDITOR AND WROTE ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL PACKAGE FOR THE SHOW EACH EVENING.

AND, YES, I MEAN -- >> SURE.

>> YOU HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT IS GOING ON.

THERE ARE TWO PRODUCTION MEETINGS THAT INVOLVE EVERYBODY.

>> EVERY DAY.

>> EVERY DAY.

REPORTERS WHO ARE BEING ASSIGNED TO VARIOUS THINGS AND, OF COURSE, THOSE OF US WHO ANCHOR SO YOU HAD INPUT TO WHAT WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE AT 6:00.

>> GREAT.

WE ARE GOING TO SHOW ANOTHER SHORT PIECE OF A MONTAGE THAT I THINK YOUR SON HUE MIGHT HAVE HAD A HAND.

>> HE DID.

>> BILL STARTED IN THE MAILROOM IN 1961 BUT IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE HE JOINED RADIO AS A REPORTER AND FROM THERE TELEVISION WHERE HE REALLY BELONGED.

BILL HAUGLAND IS STILL INVOLVED WITH THE WEATHER AND IT IS A THIRST CITY PROBLEM.

>> IN THE DAYS WHEN ONLY MEN COULD GO INTO THAT TERNS WOMEN MARCHED FOR EQUALITY.

>> IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A THAT VRN KEEPER TO SERVE BEER TO WOMEN.

>> BILL WAS ALL OVER THAT PARTY.

>> I WANT TO GO INTO THE BAR.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

>> I WANT TO BE WHERE THE MEN ARE.

EXPERIENCE.ED TO THE LOOK OF THE LOOK OF THE NEWS SET CHANGED BUT IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE NEWS.

>> A NATION IN QUESTION.

WE'LL CONTINUE.

>> TWO REF RENDA, THE ELECTIONS AND THE ICE STORM.

BILL LED US THROUGH IT ALL.

AS THE LIGHTS STARTED COMING BACK ON FOLLOWING THE COLD DARK NIGHTS OF JANUARY, 1998, BILL WAS ANXIOUS TO FINALLY REPORT GOOD NEWS.

>> GOOD EVENING.

WELL, TODAY THE SUN CAME OUT.

>> THERE WE GO.

WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT QUALITY OF AN ANCHOR?

CLEARLY YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE NEWS GATHERING AND WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE SAID.

WHAT ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT QUALITIES?

>> I THINK -- I THINK THAT THE -- AND I HAVE SAID THIS TO MANY YOUNGER PEOPLE COMING INTO THE BUSINESS AND FOR THE FIRST TIME GETTING OUT ON TO THE ROAD AND BEING ON CAMERA IS TO BE YOURSELF.

IF YOU TRY TO PROJECT AN IMAGE OR IF YOU TRY TO GESTICULATE WITH YOUR HANDS WHEN IT ISN'T YOUR NATURE TO DO SO IT COMES ACROSS AS SUPER FIGURES.

YOU HAVE TO BE YOURSELF AND PROJECT ONLY WHAT IS NATURAL TO YOU.

>> AND YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS, YOU HAVE MET THEM ALL, THEY NEED THE MEDIA AND THE MEDIA CAN ACTUALLY MAKE OR BREAK WHAT IS GOING ON.

HOW DO YOU ASSURE THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE EVEN KEELED AROUND POLITICIANS AND STILL KIND OF COME OUT ON TOP WHERE THEY ARE ALL WISHING YOU A WONDERFUL RETIREMENT AND CLEARLY FELT YOU DID AN EVEN HANDED JOB BUT IT MUST BE TOUGH BECAUSE THEY NEED YOU SO MUCH TO GET OUT THEIR MESSAGE AND YET YOU HAVE TO -- >> AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER CURRENT STEVEN HARPER DOESN'T HAVE A LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE MEDIA AND TRIES TO CONTROL NEWS CONFERENCELE LIKE THE MAYOR OF MONTREAL FOR SO MANY YEARS WHO WOULD CALL A NEWS CONFERENCE WHEN ALL KINDS OF EXTREMELY INTERESTING STORIES WERE HAPPENING LIKE THE OLYMPIC STADIUM AND SO ON AND HE WOULD DECIDE THAT HE WAS GOING TALK ABOUT PLANTING FLOWERS AROUND NORCHESTER BOULEVARD AND QUESTIONS WERE ALOUD OTHER THAN THE QUESTIONS THAT APPLIED TO THE PLANTING THE FLOWERS.

HARPER DOES THE SAME TYPE OF THINGS.

I THINK JOURNALISTS WHETHER THEY ARE WRITTEN MEDIA OR RADIO OR TELEVISION, THEIR JOB WHILE MAINTAINING OBJECTIVITY IS TO TRY TO GET TO THE MEAT OF THE MATTER AND PUT THE POLITICIAN IN A POSITION OF FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRST COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN -- >> THEN YOU HIT THEM.

>> DROP THE BOMB.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> SO I'M GOING TO JUST JUMP INTO THE HOLD HIGHGATE SPRINGS.

YOU HAVE LIVED IN HIGHGATE SPRINGS SINCE THE '70S.

WHY DID YOU MOVE TO THE UNITED STATES?

>> MY GRAND MOTHER AND GRANDFATHER HAD THE HOUSE THAT WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN AND VIRTUALLY AS YOU MENTIONED, SUMMERS, EASTER HOLIDAYS, CHRISTMASES, ALL THROUGH MY GROWING UP YEARS IN MONTREAL WERE SPENT IN HIGHGATE SPRINGS IN VERMONT AND SO SPIRITUALLY AND FAMILIALLY THERE ARE ROOTS BECAUSE THERE WERE THE HAPPY TIMES THERE.

AND WHEN MY TWO AUNTS WHO WERE RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHERS IN THE MONTREAL SCHOOL SYSTEM AND CAME DOWN HERE TO TEACH, AS DID MY MOTHER AND MY UNCLE, RETIRED TO VERMONT, WE HAD A LITTLE COMPOUND, THERE WERE 7 HOUSES INVOLVED AND SON HUGH HAS ONE OF THEM AND IT JUST CARRIES ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION AND THERE IS A CONTINUITY THERE.

I CAN STAND ON MY BACKPORCH AND FEEL THE PRESENCE OF ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PASSED ON.

THERE IS A SENSE OF CONTINUITY ABOUT IT.

AND I LOVE THE PLACE.

I LOVE IT IN VERMONT.

AND LAKE CHAMPLAIN AND ALL OF THE ADVENTURES AS A YOUNG FELLOW.

>> SO YOUR FOUR CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL HERE IN THE STATES.

>> THEY DID.

THEY WERE ALL BORN IN MONTREAL AND ALL CHOOLED HERE.

>> AND CLEARLY THEREFORE YOU ARE INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH VERMONT AND QUEBEC.

SOME SEE THEM AS SIMILAR IN CHARACTER.

WHAT ARE YOUR OBSERVATIONS?

>> MY TWO HATS THAT I JUST REFERRED TO WERE BRITISH EMPIRE LOYALISTS AND I THINK ON THE TELEPHONE THE OTHER DAY WE CASUALLY MENTIOND THAT BACK IN THE DAY WHEN IT WAS REALLY NOT DETERMINED WHERE THE BORDER WAS SPECIFICALLY AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE HEADING INTO CANADA IN FACT REMAINED ON THE VERMONT SIDE SO POPULATION HERE IN VERMONT THAT HAS MAINTAINED ITS CULTURAL ROOTS SO THAT IS I THINK THE BIGGEST SIMILARITY BETWEEN VERMONT AND QUEBEC, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT IT IS LARGELY RURAL.

QUEBEC IS LARGERY RURAL EVEN THOUGH THE URBAN CENTER MONTREAL IS SOME WHAT DIFFERENT AND VERMONT IS A GROWING STATE IN TERMS OF BURLINGTON AND LARGER CENTERS.

THERE IS THAT BASIS.

>> DO YOU -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ALSO IN THE BUSINESS OF CLEARING UP MISCONCEPTIONS SO JUST WHAT DO YOU WANT AMERICANS TO KNOW ABOUT CANADIANS THAT THEY JUST MIGHT NOT GET?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK -- I THINK THAT AMERICANS BACK PRIOR TO THE IRAQ WAR WERE SHOCKED WHEN THE THEN PRIME MINISTER DECIDED THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO SUPPORT THE WAR AND CANADIANS IN GENERAL AGREED WITH THAT AND NOW I GUESS RETROSPREKTIVELY AMERICANS ARE GINNING TO REALIZE THAT MAYBE THE CANADIAN DECISION WASN'T SO -- IF YOU LOOK AT SITUATIONS LIKE EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE, FOR EXAMPLE, UNIVERSALITY HAS BEEN A PART OF CANADIAN LIFE.

THERE ISN'T A SICKLE CANADIAN WHO PAYS MORE THAN $800 A YEAR FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHO ARE H.I.V.

INFECTED OR, YOU KNOW, AND GRANTED THERE ARE LONG LINEUPS AND A LOT OF NEGATIVE THINGS TO BE SAID ABOUT THE LONG LINEUPS BUT THERE IS NO CANADIAN WHO IN AN EMERGENCY MEDICALLY DOESN'T GET IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.

>> SPEAKING OF MEDICINE, YOU HAVE THIS WONDERFUL REPUTATION AS A FAMILY MAN, CLEARLY YOU ARE AS YOU TALKED ABOUT AND YOUR 90-YEAR-OLD MOTHER LIVES WITH YOU.

YOU ARE -- YOU'RE CARING FOR YOUR WIFE'S FATHER WHO MONTREAL.

I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF RESPECTIVE CARE OF THE ELDERLY IN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE YOU ARE INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT IS AN AREA THAT I'M NOT -- IT IS SORT OF BRAND NEW TERRITORY TO ME.

LOOKING AFTER MY MOTHER HAS BEEN ABOUT A SEVEN OR EIGHT YEAR SITUATION AND, OF COURSE, THERE ARE RELATIVES WHO HAVE PASSED ON THAT I HAVE BEEN PERIPHERALLY INVOLVED WITH DEATH BED AND CARE BEFORE DEATH.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SORT OF SAY THAT I'M ANY EXPERT IN WHAT THE CANADIAN SYSTEM IS VERSUS THE AMERICAN SYSTEM.

PALIATEIVE CARE IS SOMETHING WHICH IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE SYSTEM ACROSS THE BORDER IN MONTREAL.

WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO LOOK AFTER THE ELDERLY IN THAT FINAL STAGE OF THEIR LIVES.

THERE ARE PARALLELS.

>> USING BOTH?

USING MAINLY CANADIAN HEALTHCARE OR -- >> BOTH MY WIFE AND I AND ALL MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY HAVE BECOME AMERICAN CITIZENS AND I HAVE THE USUAL HIGH DEDUCTIBLE POLICY THAT MANY OF US HAVE.

>> SURE.

MONTREAL, SUCH A UNIQUE PLACE AND YOU HAVE COVERED IT FOR SO LONG.

WHAT INTRIGUES YOU THE MOST ABOUT THAT FABULOUS CITY.

IN.

>> WELL, I THINK IT IS THE -- TO USE THE EXPRESSION THAT IS OFTEN USED THE [SPEAKING IN FRENCH] IF YOU HEAD UP THE 401 TO TORONTO THERE IS MUCH MORE OF A FOCUS ON BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, GETTING DOWN TO BUSINESS, PEOPLE THERE OFTEN DON'T EVEN TAKE LUNCH.

WHEREAS IN MONTREAL THERE IS A RESTAURANTS, IT IS ALMOST AFUL SENSE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU GO INTO OLD MONTREAL WITH THE COBBLED STREETS AND SO ON OF AN OLD EUROPE FEELING.

SO TO ME MONTREAL IS UNIQUE IN CANADA IN THAT RESPECT.

QUEBEC CITY, OF COURSE, HAS SOME WONDERFUL PLACES, TOO.

BUT MONTREAL IS A TERRIFIC PLACE.

>> YOU HAVE ALSO SEEN MONTREAL GO THROUGH VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.

WHAT DOES THAT CITY AND THE ITS CITIZENS DO TO COME BACK FROM SOME OF THE HARD HITS THAT IT HAS HAD?

>> WE STARTED THE TELEON THIS OF STARS WAY BACK WHEN AN APARTMENT BUILDING BLEW UP A GAS EXPLOSION BACK IN THE '60S AND THIS TELETHON OF STARS UNDERLINES THE WAY PEOPLE TURN OUT IN MONTREAL TO HELP WHEN THERE IS A CRISIS.

AND THAT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN TRUE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IF YOU LOOK AT THE HORRIBLE SITUATION IN NEW YORK ON 9/11.

>> SURE.

S> WHERE EVERYBODY COMES TOGETHER, YOU KNOW.

ALL SORTS OF THINGS ARE CAST ASIDE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS IN URBAN CENTERS LIKE RACISM AND AWARENESS OF ETHIC GROUPS -- EVERYBODY IS WORKING FOR ONE CAUSE, AND THAT IS TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF WHATEVER CRISIS IT MIGHT BE.

MONTREAL IS TERRIFIC THAT WAY.

THEY JUST COME OUT IN DROVES TO SUPPORT THE UNDERDOG AND TO HELP WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM.

>> RIGHT, SO THE ICE STORM.

>> THE ICE STORM IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

>> A VERY DIVERSE CITY.

>> UM-H'M.

>> HOW IS THAT WORKING?

IS IT A GOOD PLACE FOR A LOT OF NATIONALITIES TO MIX IT UP?

>> JUST WONDERFUL.

IF YOU HEAD UP PARK AVENUE AND YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE RECENT CONTROVERSY ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE RENAMED AFTER THE LATE FREE MERE.

IT IS NOW GOING TO REMAIN PARK AVENUE BECAUSE OF THE OUTCRY AND THE FAMILY, GOOD FOR THEM, CAME ALONG AND SAID NO.

BUT DRIVING UP PARK AVENUE INTO THE NORTH END INTO THE PARK EXTENSION DISTRICT YOU CAN VIRTUALLY, IT IS A UNITED NATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE VIRTUALLY EVERY WALK OF LIFE, EVERY ETHNIC GROUP FROM THE JEWISH POPULATION DOWN TO THE GREEKS, THE ITALIANS AND SO ON.

JUST WONDERFUL.

I JUST LOVE IT THERE AND I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND ENJOY GOING AND VISITING AND HAVING COFFEE OR SITTING OUTSIDE OF A RESTAURANT AND HAVING A COFFEE AND WATCHING IT ALL GO BY.

>> A GREAT PLACE.

>> IT IS, INDEED.

>> HOW MANY FILMS HAVE YOU BEEN IN?

ANOTHER SIDELINE, OF COURSE, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER SHOWS.

AS IT IS AND ON ASSIGNMENT.

>> RIGHT.

>> THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE BUT I WAS NAS NATED TO HEAR THAT YOU -- FASCINATED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN FILMS.

>> A FELLOW THAT I KIND OF GREW UP WITH AND WHOSE FAMILY USED TO COME DOWN TO HIGHGATE SPRINGS IN THE OLD DAYS WAS MICHAEL SARAZAN.

HE IS IN A NUMBER OF FILMS STILL, I BELIEVE.

HE MADE IT BIG IN THE FLIMFLAM WITH GEORGE C. SCOTT.

HE USED TO DRIVE AROUND WITH ME IN THE MOBILE AND WONDER IF HE SHOULD GET INTO RADIO BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SEE TO BE MAKING IT IN THE AREA HE WANTED.

AS IT TURNS OUT, WITH AS IT IS, WE DID A KIND OF REVERSAL.

HE WAS DOING A MOVIE IN WHICH HE PLAYED AN ANCHORMAN AND I DECIDED THAT I WOULD PLAY THE ACTOR BY HAVING A ROLE IN HIS FILM WHICH WAS BEING SHOT IN MONTREAL, MARGOT KIDDER WAS THE COSTAR AND THAT IS WHAT STARTD THAT THING AND A CHAIN OF INVITATIONS FROM THE VARIOUS PRODUCTION HOUSES FOLDED.

-- FOLLOWED.

I HAD SPEAKING ROLES.

JUST SMALL CAMEOS.

>> WITH MARLON PUERTO RICAN DOUGH AND DENIRO AND -- MARLON BRANDO AND DENIRO AND MANY OTHERS.

>> NICK NOLTE.

>> PLANS FOR YOUR RETIREMENT.

SOME WRITING.

>> YES.

>> YOU WRITE POETRY BUT OTHER THINGS?

>> I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A STORY THAT WAS BASED ON SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A CAMERAMAN AND SOUTHBOUND -- ACTUALLY, HE WAS PICKED OUT OF A POLICE LINEUP FOR AN ATTACK THAT OCCURRED DOWNTOWN MONTREAL OUT OF A C.F.C.S.

MOW PILE AND TURNED OUT HE WASN'T GUILTY AND SOMETHING ELSE.

>> TURNED OUT TO BE AN INTERESTING PLOT.

>> A GOOD ADVENTURE.

>> AND IT WOULD BEFICATION BASED ON FACT.

I'M WORKING ON THAT NOW AND MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO PUBLISH IT WHEN IT IS FINISHED.

>> I'M SORRY, WE ARE ALL OUT OF TIME.

IT HAS BEEN GREAT.

>> CERTAINLY WENT BY.

>> THERE ARE MANY MORE STORIES THERE PU WE WISH YOU WELL AND -- BUT WE WISH YOU WELL AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

>> IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE, FRAN.

FRAN -- BILL HAUGLAND, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

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