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I'M MAYA TRUBOWLSY.

THE SAN DIEGO WATER CONSERVATION GARDEN HAS BEEN EDUCATING COMMUNITIES ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION.

THE GARDEN HAS FACED MAJOR CHALLENGES OVER THE YEARS, AND NOW IT'S FACING ONE OF ITS BIGGEST YET.

KPBS REPORTER JOHN CAROL IS LIVE AT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY WHERE THE BOARD IS VOTING WHETHER TO KEEP FUNDING THE GARDEN.

SO, JOHN, HAVE THEY DECIDED WHAT TO DO YET?

>> Reporter: THEY HAVE, MAYA.

THE BOARD MEETING ENDED ABOUT 45 MINUTES AGO.

I'M GOING TO UNSPOOL ALL THIS FOR YOU, BUT IT'S RATHER CONVOLUTED.

I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST.

SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THE WATER AUTHORITY VOTED TO END ITS TWO DECADES OLD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WATER GARDEN.

THEY HAD BEEN PAYING THEM ABOUT $150,000 A YEAR, WHICH AMOUNTS TO A TINY FRACTION OF THE WATER AUTHORITY'S MORE THAN A BILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR BUDGET.

SO THAT MEANT THAT THERE WOULD BE NO MORE FUNDING.

STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES.

THEY DID.

ONE OPTION WAS TO STICK WITH THE PULLOUT, THAT WOULD MEAN NO MORE FUNDING.

OPTION TWO WAS TO GIVE THEM $100,000 FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND $50,000 NEXT AND THEN END THE RELATIONSHIP.

THIS MORNING THE FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED TO DO NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS BUT INSTEAD TO GIVE THEM A FINAL $50,000 GRANT, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT.

OKAY, SO THAT CAME TO THE FULL BOARD THIS AFTERNOON.

AFTER A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND DISCUSSION, THE BOARD ENDED UP VOTING NO ON THE $50,000, NO ON OPTION ONE, AND NO ON OPTION TWO.

SO THEN YOU THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING?

WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT DEFAULTS TO THE ORIGINAL PULLOUT OF THE MOU, WHICH MEANS NO MORE MONEY FOR THE WATER GARDEN.

NOW, WE SPENT SOME TIME OUT THERE YESTERDAY TALKING TO VOLUNTEERS TO GET A SENSE OF THE PLACE, AND HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND.

THE SAN DIEGO WATER CONSERVATION GARDEN WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1999.

IT FEATURES ALL SORTS OF EXHIBITS, IDEAS ON WHAT TO PLANT THAT WILL BEAUTIFY LAND WHILE SAVING WATER.

IT'S MOSTLY STAFFED BY VOLUNTEERS LIKE EMILY ROUTEMAN.

>> I'VE BEEN A VOLUNTEER FOR THREE YEARS.

I WAS FASCINATED.

I APPRECIATED IT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY WONDERFUL, AND I BECAME A VOLUNTEER.

>> Reporter: THE GARDEN IS A PROJECT OF REGIONAL WATER PURVEYORS INCLUDING THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, WHICH HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING $150,000 A YEAR.

SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ALSO SUPPORTED THE PROJECT, BUT OVER THE YEARS SOME OF THAT SUPPORT HAS FALLEN AWAY INCLUDING FROM THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, WHICH RECENTLY ENDED ITS FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF THE GARDEN.

>> THIS IS NOT A GOOD STRATEGIC MOVE.

>> Reporter: ROUTEMAN IS RETIRED, BUT SHE SPENT HER CAREER HELPING ORGANIZATIONS CRAFT EFFECTIVE FINANCIAL AND MISSION-RELATED STRATEGIES.

SHE SAYS ANY MOVE TO CUT OR CUT OFF FUNDING IS SHORTSIGHTED.

>> THE INVESTMENT THAT WAS MADE TO BUILD THIS PLACE THAT HAS CREATED THIS PLACE OF BEAUTY AND EDUCATION, THAT ADVANCES THE MISSIONS OF ALL OF THE WATER DISTRICTS, THIS INVESTMENT WOULD BE LOST AND WASTED IF THE COUNTY WITHDREW THEIR SUPPORT.

>> I WORKED IN THE WATER INDUSTRY FOR OVER 40 YEARS, HAVING WORKED AT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND PADRE DAM MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

>> Reporter: HAROLD BAILEY HAS VOLUNTEERED HERE FOR 13 YEARS.

>> IT'S BEEN A GOOD 13 YEARS TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: BAILEY SAYS THE WATER AUTHORITY'S LEVEL OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT AMOUNTS TO A BIT LESS THAN 5 CENTS PER RATEPAYER, 5 CENTS PER YEAR PER RATEPAYER.

>> I THINK THEY HAVE NOT DONE ADEQUATE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VALUE OF THIS GARDEN IS.

OUR MOTTO IS MORE BEAUTY, LESS WATER.

AND LESS WATER IS THE THEME.

IT'S CONSERVATION AT THE FOREFRONT.

SO BY NOT TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT, I THINK THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE AN OFFHAND DECISION AND SAVE A FEW DOLLARS.

>> Reporter: THE WATER CONSERVATION GARDEN IS AN EDUCATIONAL PLACE THAT FEATURES ALL SORTS OF EXHIBITS.

THERE IS A CHILDREN'S AREA FOR WHEN THE YOUNG ONES TIRE AT LOOKING AT ALL THE FLORA, AN AMPHITHEATER FOR GROUP PRESENTATIONS, A GAZEBO FOR WEDDINGS AND PARTIES, AND INFORMATIONAL SIGNS FEATURING QR CODES EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.

EMILY ROUTMAN SAYS IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO CUT OFF OR EVEN LOWER FUNDING.

>> IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY STRATEGIC SENSE TO CUT OFF FUNDING FOR THIS PLACE OR CLOSE THIS RESOURCE THAT ADVANCES THE MISSION.

>> Reporter: I MUST TELL YOU BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR AUDIENCE TO KNOW, I'VE BEEN COVERING CITY COUNCILS AND BOARDS FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS NOW, AND I HAVE TO SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW TODAY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AMONGST BOARD MEMBERS, AND I TALKED TO A COUPLE AFTERWARDS, AND THEY SEEMED TO BE EVEN SOMEWHAT UNSURE AS TO WHAT ACTION THEY HAD TAKEN.

SO THERE YOU HAVE THAT.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO LAUREN MAG NUSSEN WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE GARDEN.

SHE'S ON VACATION RIGHT NOW.

I TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE.

SHE SAYS SHE IS, OF COURSE, DISAPPOINTED.

BUT THEY ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY MEET IN JULY.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE A VERY PLUCKY GROUP, SO I'M SURE THEY'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

OTHER WATER AUTHORITIES AROUND THE COUNTY ARE CONTINUING TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THE GARDEN, BUT THEY'RE FACING FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, TOO, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

LIVE IN KERNY MESA JOHN CARROLL, KPBS NEWS.

>>> WEATHER HEADLINES AS WE HEAD THROUGHOUT THIS EVENING AND AS WE HEAD INTO TONIGHT I'LL BE TRACKING SUNNY SKIES AND MILD CONDITIONS CONTINUING FOR THE REST OF THE WORKWEEK, AND I'M ALSO TRACKING GREAT WEATHER HERE FOR BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, BUT I AM ALSO TRACKING THAT NEXT CHANCE OF RAIN.

IT IS GOING TO BE A LOW CHANCE BUT ON THAT EXTENDED FORECAST.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATED LOOK COMING UP.

>>> MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER A MASSIVE FIRE DESTROYED PART OF OCEANSIDE PIER WE MAY NOW KNOW WHAT CAUSED YOU.

KPBS REPORTER SAYS THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION IS NOW AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

>> Reporter: TODAY FISHERMEN AND FAMILIES ARE ENJOYING THE PIER ON A SUNNY DAY, BUT THIS WAS THE SCENE IN APRIL 2024, SMOKE BILLOWING AT THE END OF THE PIER.

>> THIS WAS AN ACCIDENTAL FIRE.

>> Reporter: FIRE CREWS WERE ABLE TO SAVE 90% OF THE PIER.

AFTER THE FIRE WAS OUT, THE CITY BROUGHT IN THE BUREAU OF CALL, TOBACCO, AND FIREARMS TO LEAD THE INVESTIGATION.

>> ABLE TO RULE OUT ANY INTENTIONAL CAUSES.

>> Reporter: OCEAN SIDE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF BLAKE DOOR SAID THE CITY NEEDED TO HELP.

>> THEY ASSISTED IN LARGE INVESTIGATIONS SUCH AS THE ONE WE HAD HERE.

IN PARTICULAR WE BROUGHT IN THEIR EXPERTISE BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXPANDED CAPABILITIES BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE AS A SMALL AGENCY.

>> Reporter: THE ATF LOOKED AT WITNESS FOOTAGE AND BROUGHT IN STATEMENTS.

THEY WERE ABLE TO RULE OUT EVERY MAN MADE OR NATURAL CAUSE EXCEPT FOR ONE.

>> THE ONLY THING THEY COULDN'T ELIMINATE WHICH WAS A HEAT PRODUCING SOURCE AT THE TIME OF THE PIER WAS ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS.

>> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS SAY IT WAS FAULTY WIRING, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THE FIRE BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE DAMAGE.

>> WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHICH COMPONENTS, EXACTLY WHAT CAUSED IT.

ALL WE CAN DO IS NARROW IT DOWN TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

>> Reporter: ALL INVESTIGATORS COULD SAY WITH CERTAINTY WAS THAT IT WAS AN ELECTRICAL FIRE THAT STARTED AT THE NORTH WEST QUADRUPT OF THE PIER.

THE REDACTED REPORT IS ONLY NOW AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING PROCESS TO REBUILD THE PIER.

THE EARLIEST CONSTRUCTION COULD BEGIN WOULD BE LATE 2026.

IN OCEANSIDE, ALEXANDER WYNN, KPBS NEWS.

>>> THE FIRST AMENDMENT COALITION IS SUING THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TO OBTAIN PUBLIC RECORDS.

THE SUIT IS CONNECTED TO SAN DIEGO POLICE OFFICER'S USE OF NONLETHAL FIREARM AND A K-9 WHILE RESPONDING TO A 911 CALL LAST FALL.

POLICE SAY THE 911 CALLER CLAIMED MARCUS EVANS THREATENED A WOMAN WITH A GUN.

A LOCAL VIDEOGRAPHER CAPTURED VIDEO OF THE RESPONSE AND IT SHOWS EVANS WALKING OUT OF A WITH HIS HANDS RAISED RESPONDING TO OFFICERS, AND LATER THE VIDEO SHOWS POLICE SHOOTING EVANS WITH THREE BEANBAG SHOTGUN ROUNDS AND THEN RELEASING A POLICE DOG THAT BIT HIM REPEATEDLY.

>> CALIFORNIA HAS A SERIES OF LAWS THAT WERE PASSED ABOUT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, WHICH GUARANTEE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO ALL RECORDS RELATING TO ANY TIME A POLICE OFFICER DISCHARGES A FIREARM AT A PERSON OR USES FORCE THAT CAUSES GREAT BODILY INJURY.

THAT IS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE FORCE IS DEEMED LEGALLY JUSTIFIED OR UNJUSTIFIED.

>> EVANS' ATTORNEY SAYS POLICE NEVER FOUND A GUN OR BOOKED EVANS INTO JAIL.

LOY SAYS HIS ORGANIZATION REQUESTED ALL PUBLIC RECORDS ABOUT SDPD'S USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS IN MARCH INCLUDING USE OF FORCE AND BODY CAM VIDEOS.

EXCEPT FOR A REDACTED CALL LOG, THEY SAY THE CITY REFUSED TO DISCLOSE ANY OTHER RECORDS.

THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAVIS EASTER SAY THEY WERE AWARE OF THE LAWSUIT AND DO NOT COMMENT ON PENDING LITIGATION.

>>> THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT STOPPED SHARING CONTROVERSIAL SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES, THAT IS AFTER THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TOLD THE DEPARTMENT IT WAS LIKELY VIOLATING STATE LAW.

KPBS REPORTER GUSTAVO SOLIS HAS THE DETAILS.

>> Reporter: RECORDS SHOW THAT THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT SHARED DATA FROM ITS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MORE THAN 60 TIMES LAST YEAR.

LOCAL ADVOCATES FLAGGED IT AS A VIOLATION OF A STATE LAW THAT EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS FROM SHARING THAT KIND OF SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES.

>> THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGHER SCRUTINY, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN USING TECHNOLOGY THAT IS STORING AND SHARING ALL OF OUR PRIVATE DATA.

>> Reporter: AND CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA SEEMS TO AGREE.

IN APRIL HIS OFFICE SENT SDPD A LETTER SAYING HIS DEPARTMENT LIKELY VIOLATED STATE LAW.

SAN DIEGO'S AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM USES 500 CAMERAS TO TRACK DATA ON EVERY VEHICLE IT CAPTURES.

THE SYSTEM RECORDS THE COLOR, MAKE, MODEL, AND LOCATION OF EACH VEHICLE, AND WHICH DIRECTION THEY ARE TRAVELING.

IT STORES MILLIONS OF THESE DATA POINTS IN A THIRD-PARTY DATABASE THAT OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE ACCESS TO, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM SDPD.

CAPTAIN CHARLES LARRA SAYS THE DEPARTMENT IS NO LONGER SHARING DATA WITH ANY OUTSIDE AGENCY.

>> AFTER SEVERAL WEEKS OF BACK AND FORTH WE CONSULTED WITH DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL MICHAEL S. COHEN TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

>> Reporter: THE CITY'S INDEPENDENT PRIVATE ADVISORY BOARD SAYS THE ADMISSION IS A BIG WIN FOR RESIDENTS.

THE BOARD'S CHAIRMAN WANTS TO CONTINUE TO WORK CLABT RECEIVELY WITH SDPD TO IMPLEMENT MORE PRIVACY POLICIES.

>> I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS FOR THE PRIVACY BOARD TO ADVISE THESE AGENCIES ON A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON WHAT EFFECT IS EFFECTIVELY DATA MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THIS COMES DOWN TO.

>> Reporter: AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEMS HAVE FOR YEARS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL, BUT THEY'VE COME UNDER INCREASED SCRUTINY THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S MASSIVE IMMIGRATION DEPORTATION CAMPAIGN.

FEDERAL AGENCIES WANT TO USE THIS DATA TO DETAIN WITHOUT LEGAL STATUS.

ADVLKTS WANT TO USE THE COUNCIL TO DEFUND THE PROGRAM ENTIRELY.

IT SHOWS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S LIKELY COLLABORATION WITH STATE LAW SHOWS THEY SHOULDN'T BE TRUSTED WITH THIS INFORMATION.

>> THAT SHOULDN'T BE SEEN AS A MINIMAL MISTAKE, RIGHT?

AND INSTEAD THAT SHOULD BE SEEN AS A HUGE RED FLAG, THAT IF THEY CAN'T EVEN ABIDE BY THE LANGUAGE OF THE LAW THAT WAS CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, WHY WOULD THE PUBLIC TRUST THAT THEY SHOULD USE THIS TECHNOLOGY AT ALL?

>> Reporter: AND THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IT.

COUNCILMAN STEVE WHITBURN HAS LONG BEEN A SUPPORTER OF AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS, BUT HE SAID LAST MONTH'S IMMIGRATION RATE IN SOUTH PARK HAS MADE HIM RECONSIDER HIS POSITION.

>> IT SEEMS WITHIN THE REALM OF THIS POSSIBILITY THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD TRY TO FORCE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TO SHARE LPR DATA AND THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD USE THAT DATA TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION POLICIES OR FOR OTHER PURPOSES THAT MANY OF US WOULD OPPOSE.

>> Reporter: THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO REVIEW THIS ITEM IN THE COMING WEEK.

GUSTAVO SOLIS, KPBS NEWS.

>>> I'M JEFF BENNETT.

TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, THE SUPREME COURT SAYS STATES CAN BLOCK FUNDING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

THAT'S AT 7:00 AFTER EVENING EDITION ON KPBS.

>>> UC SAN DIEGO HEALTH LAID OFF 230 EMPLOYEES THIS WEEK INCLUDING PHARMACISTS, LAB SCIENTISTS, AND CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS.

KPBS HEALTH REPORTER HEIDI DeMARCO JOINS ME NOW FROM THE NEWSROOM.

HEIDI, WHAT REASON DID THE HEALTH SYSTEM LEADERS GIVE FOR THOSE LAYOFFS?

>> THE HEALTH SYSTEM SAYS IT'S FACING RISING COSTS, POOR REIMBURSEMENT, AND FEDERAL FUNDING UNCERTAINTY.

I TALKED WITH ONE OF THE SPOKESPERSONS FOR ONE OF THE UNIONS THAT REPRESENTS SOME OF THE PEOPLE LAID OFF.

HE SAYS THESE CUTS TARGET FRONTLINE WORKERS, VIOLATE LABOR CONTRACTS, AND COULD RESULT IN LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR PATIENTS.

>> SOME OF OUR PATIENTS WERE HAVING TO WAIT WEEKS, EVEN MONTHS TO GET IN FOR APPOINTMENTS.

THE CLINICAL LAB SCIENTISTS PRIOR TO THESE LAYOFFS WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR STAFFING WAS GETTING TO THE POINT THAT IT WAS CRITICAL TO THE POINT WHERE THEY FELT THEY WERE AT RISK FOR MAKING ERRORS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING, SO NOW THAT EVEN MORE FOLKS HAVE BEEN CUT, THAT'S DEFINITELY CONCERNING.

>> A RECENT UNION REPORT ALREADY SHOWED UC SAN DIEGO'S EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WAS UNDERSTAFFED.

IT FOUND MORE THAN 5% OF PATIENTS LEAVE WITHOUT BEING SEEN.

THAT'S TWICE THE STATE AVERAGE.

UC SAN DIEGO HEALTH SAYS THE LAYOFFS AFFECTED ABOUT 1.5% OF ITS WORKFORCE, AND THAT IMPACTED EMPLOYEES WILL RECEIVE FULL UNIVERSITY BENEFITS AND CAREER SUPPORT.

THE UNIONS ARE DEMANDING UCFC REINSTATE ALL AFFECTED WORKERS.

ANOTHER BARGAINING SESSION IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH.

FROM THE NEWSROOM, HEIDI DeMARCO, KPBS NEWS.

>>> AMERICANS COULD BE IN FOR A LONG, HOT SUMMER OF PROTESTS AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OVER ISSUES THAT INCLUDE PROPOSED CUTS TO SAFETY NET PROGRAMS, UNIVERSITY FUNDING, AND MASS DEPORTATIONS.

BUT AMID PRESIDENT TRUMP'S THREATS TO DEPLOY MORE TROOPS TO AMERICAN CITIES AFTER A COURT WIN, DO PROTESTS STILL WORK?

KPBS' AMYTHA SHARMA JOINS ME TO EXPLORE THAT.

WHAT DID YOU FIND INARE PROTESTS STILL EFFECTIVE IN THE YEAR OF 2025?

>> THE YEAR IS HALF OVER, MAYA AND IT REALLY IS MIXED BAG.

SAN DIEGO IS COMING OFF A HUGE NO KING'S DAY PROTEST JUNE 15th WITH PEOPLE RALLYING AGAINST WHAT THEY BELIEVE WAS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S SLIDE AUTHORITARIANISM.

THIS PROTEST HAD ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF A SUCCESSFUL ONE.

80,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

IT WAS DIVERSE, FAMILIES, VETERANS, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS, POLITICIANS ATTENDED, AND -- AND THIS IS KEY -- IT WAS PEACEFUL.

I SPOKE WITH WENDY.

SHE WAS ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS OF THE PROTESTS, AND SHE WORKS WITH TAKE ACTION SAN DIEGO, WHICH HELPS ELECT PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATES TO OFFICE.

AND SHE SAID THE SUCCESS OF THE PROTEST WAS REALLY BY DESIGN.

IT WAS NOT BY ACCIDENT.

>> NOT ONLY DID WE TRAIN OUR OWN PEOPLE IN DEESCALATION AND HAVE A SPECIAL GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS, PEACE KEEPERS WHO WERE WEARING YELLOW VESTS AND CIRCULATING THROUGH THE CROWD, WE HAD SEVERAL FIRST AID TABLES SET UP.

WE HAD LEGAL ADVISERS, ALL VOLUNTEERS.

BUT WE ALSO SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS COORDINATING WITH SAN DIEGO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> SHE ADDS THAT FOR PROTESTS TO WORK, PEOPLE ALSO HAVE TO REMAIN ACTIVE IN OTHER WAYS.

VOTING, CAMPAIGNING FOR CANDIDATES THEY LIKE, AND CONTACTING ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.

THE EFFECTIVENESS OF PROTESTS GETS DILUTED WHEN THERE IS VIOLENCE.

THE PROTESTERS AGAINST THE I.C.E.

RAIDS IN LOS ANGELES EARLIER THIS MONTH DID NOT HAVE MONTHS TO ORGANIZE AND STRATEGIES, AS THEY DID IN SAN DIEGO.

AND VIOLENCE, THOUGH NOT TO THE LEVEL THAT GOVERNOR NEWSOM SAID LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD NOT HANDLE, DID ERUPT.

IN FACT, THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS IN ITS RULING TO ALLOW TRUMP'S AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENT IN THE CITY FOR NOW SAID ITS DECISION STEMMED FROM A GROUP OF PROTESTERS WHO TRIED TO BLOCK I.C.E.

AGENTS FROM THEIR OPERATIONS JUNE 6th BY THROWING CONCRETE CHUNKS, BOTTLES OF LIQUID, AND OTHER OBJECTS AT AGENTS.

THE LEGAL FIGHT OVER THAT ISSUE IS ONGOING.

THE INTRODUCTION OF THE MILITARY INCLUDING THE MARINES TO PROTESTS SHOULD BE A LAST RESORT, SAYS FORMER SAN DIEGO U.S. ATTORNEY CAROL LAMB.

>> IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO AFFORD GETTING TO THAT POINT.

HERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE PRESIDENT AND THOSE WHO ANSWER TO HIM ARE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT.

>> Reporter: IN THE SHORT-TERM THE EFFECT OF THE MILITARY DEPLOYMENT IN L.A.

DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE HAD A HUGE IMPACT.

THE NO KING'S PROTESTS HAPPENED IN THE DAYS AFTER TROOPS WERE SENT IN, AND THEY WERE MOSTLY PEACEFUL.

BUT SAN DIEGO DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN MIKE LEVIN SAYS THE OVERALL EFFECT OF THOSE TROOP'S PRESENCE IN L.A. IS DANGEROUS AND WRONG.

>> I THINK IT'S DESIGNED TO DISCOURAGE, TO CHILL ANY SORT OF PROTEST, EVEN NONVIOLENT PROTESTS, AND I THINK THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY UN-AMERICAN.

>> DESPITE THE MILITARY DEPLOYMENT UC SAN DIEGO POLITICAL SCIENTIST THAD KOUSER IS OPTIMISTIC PROTESTS REMAIN A POWERFUL DRIVER OF CHANGE IN THE U.S. >> ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE PEACEFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY -- REALLY PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE LINE BY PROTESTING.

THAT CAN ABSOLUTELY CHANGE THE OPINIONS OF POLITICAL LEADERS AND CHANGE THE PUBLIC OPINION MORE BROADLY.

WE SAW THAT WITH PROTESTS IN THE SOUTH, CHANGING OPINION ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA.

>> AND SOME QUICK CLOSING POINTS, MAYA.

HARVARD UNIVERSITY POLITICAL SCIENTIST ERICA CHANAWITH HAS STUDIED PROTESTS WORLDWIDE, AND SHE FOUND THAT NO GOVERNMENT CAN WITHSTAND A CHALLENGE IF 3.5% OF ITS POPULATION IS MOBILIZED AGAINST IT PEACEFULLY.

IN AMERICAN TERMS, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 12 MILLION PEOPLE TODAY RIGHT NOW.

BUT, AGAIN, THOSE PROTESTS, THAT MOBILIZATION HAS TO BE PEACEFUL, SUSTAINED, ORGANIZED, AND ABLE TO BUILD BROADER COALITIONS.

AND MY LAST POINT IS THAT THERE ARE MORE PROTESTS, NATIONAL PROTESTS PLANNED FOR JULY 17th.

>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT REPORTING AS USUAL.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THE STORY IS PART OF OUR PUBLIC MATTERS INITIATIVE.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE AT KPBS.ORG/PUBLICMATTERS.

>>> I'M TRACKING GREAT WEATHER HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

FOR YOUR FRIDAY AFTERNOON WE'LL SEE SOME MODERATE CONDITIONS HERE ALONG THE COASTAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BUT WE ARE GOING TO START TOWORM WARM UP PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY HERE ALONG THE INTERIOR BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE WEEKEND.

BEFORE TONIGHT I'M TRACKING LOW CLOUDS NEAR THE COAST.

OVERNIGHT LOWS, MID-60s.

SO IT'S A PRETTY MILD START HERE FOR YOUR EARLY FRIDAY MORNING.

FOR THE REST OF THE REGION YOU CAN SEE OVERNIGHT LOWS PRIMARILY A MIX OF 50s AND 60s.

62 DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, 60 OCEANSIDE AND CAMP PENDLETON.

FUTURE TRACKER 6:00 A.M.

SOME COASTAL FOG AND CLOUD COVERAGE WILL BE HERE ALONG THE I-5 CORRIDOR, BUT BY 9:00 A.M.

MOST OF THAT CLOUD COVER IS GOING TO START TO RECEDE BACK OFFSHORE.

IT IS GOING TO BE A CLOUDY DAY OFFSHORE AS WE HEAD INTO YOUR FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

BUT OVERALL LOTS OF SUNSHINE IN THE FORECAST AS WE HEAD NEAR FINALLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

MAKING THAT DRIVE HOME, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY NICE AFTERNOON.

PRETTY NICE EVENING AS WELL THERE FOR YOUR LATE FRIDAY.

ONCE AGAIN WE'LL SEE SOME LOW CLOUD COVERAGE THERE ON SATURDAY MORNING, BUT ONCE AGAIN SHAPING UP TO BE A VERY NICE WEEKEND HERE FOR US.

HERE'S THE OVERALL SET OF WHAT WE'RE TRACKING AECHLTURE WISE FOR YOUR FRIDAY FORECAST.

FOR THE MOST PART WE'LL BE IN THE 70s.

WE'LL SEE SOME INTERIOR 80s, AND WE'LL SEE SOME MOUNTAIN 70s, SOME DESERT TRIPLE DIGITS ONCE AGAIN THERE FOR YOUR FRIDAY AFTERNOON FORECAST.

AND OVERALL AS WE HEAD INTO THE WEEKEND, HERE'S AN UPDATED LOOK AT YOUR COAST FIVE-DAY OUTLOOK.

IF YOU LIKE SUNNY SKIES AND HIGHS IN THE 70s, YOU WILL LOVE THIS FORECAST.

WE WILL SEE OVERNIGHT LOWS POSSIBLY DIPPING INTO THE 50s.

BUT OVERALL A DRY FORECAST FOR THE MOST PART.

INLAND FORECAST IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT WARMER FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY.

BUT THEN WE'LL SEE A SUBTLE CHANGE THERE WITH TEMPERATURES DROPPING FROM THE UPPER 80s TO LOW 80s NEXT WEEK.

ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS TEMPERATURES MAINTAIN IN THE 70s.

LOOKS LIKE WE COULD SEE THINGS START TO WARM UP SOME AS WE LOOK INTO THE MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK.

AND NEXT WEEK HIGHS IN THE TRIPLE DIGITS AND OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE 70s.

>>> HAVE YOU LISTENED THE NEW KPBS PODCAST?

IT'S CALLED THE FINEST AND CAPTURES THE PEOPLE, THE ARTS, AND MOVEMENTS REDEFINING OUR REGION'S CULTURAL IT'S IDENTITY.

A NEW EPISODE JUST CAME OUT TODAY OFFERING A DEEP DIVE INTO SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY'S BIRD WATCHING COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN WATCH IT WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS OR GO TO KPBS.ORG/THEFINEST.

>>> THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD IN POWAY THAT HAS SOME LARGELY UNKNOWN HISTORY.

AND IF YOU COULD REWIND THE CLOCK, EVEN LOCAL RESIDENTS WOULD BE SURPRISED TO DISCOVER WHAT USED TO BE RIGHT IN THEIR BACK YARDS.

KEN KRAMER SHOWS US IN THIS STORY ABOUT SAN DIEGO.

>> Reporter: YOU LOOK AT THIS PART OF POWAY, AND UNLESS YOU KNOW THE STORY YOU WOULDN'T GUESS WHAT A MAN NAMED GIUSEPPE USED TO HAVE RIGHT DOWN THERE.

>> BY ABOUT 1918 HE HAD PURCHASED ALL THE LAND THAT YOU SEE DOWN BEHIND US, THE 65 ACRES, AND THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED THE POWAY WINERY.

>> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT, THE POWAY WINERY.

IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A BOTTLE OF IT MADE FOR ABOUT 70 YEARS.

>> BACK IN 1930 YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THIS VALLEY WAS 40 ACRES OF VINEYARD AND ANOTHER 25 ACRES OF CITRUS AND PEACH TREES.

>> Reporter: LUCILLE'S GRANDFATHER AND THEN HER GRANDFATHER CULTIVATED THE POWAY SOIL, PRUNED THE VINES AND PICKED BIG MUSKAT GRAPES AND PRESSED THEM AND BOTTLED THEM RIGHT IN POWAY AT THE POWAY WINERY.

>> AND THEY PRODUCED WINE THROUGHOUT THE 20s AND 30s, AND EVEN DURING PROHIBITION THEY WERE MAKING WINE.

>> Reporter: POLITICIANS AND PBUSINESS LEADERS FROM SAN DIEGO, IT IS SAID, WERE REGULAR CUSTOMERS.

AND REMEMBER THIS WAS DRY LAND FARMING.

THE WELL THEY HAD WAS JUST FOR DRINKING WATER.

>> WHATEVER THE RAIN AMOUNT WAS FOR THE YEAR, THAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THE GRAPES RECEIVED, AND THAT REFLECTED IN THE HARVESTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

>> Reporter: SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POWAY WINERY?

WORLD WAR II.

IT STOPPED OPERATING WHEN KYLE, LUCILLE'S DAD ENLISTED IN INARMY AIR CORP WAS SHOT DOWN, TAKEN AS THE GERMANS AS A PRISONER OF WAR.

CARL SURVIVED IT ALL, BUT THE WINERY IS ALL HISTORY.

TODAY WHERE THERE WAS ONCE A FARMHOUSE, ROWS AND WELLS OF GRAPES, THERENOW ROWS OF HOMES.

AND HARDLY ANYBODY REMEMBERS WHAT USED TO BE HERE, WHAT A REMARKABLY DIFFERENT PLACE THIS WAS BEFORE POWAY BECAME DEVELOPED, HOW GOOD INSOIL WAS, AND HOW IT BLESSED HARD WORK WITH GOOD WINE.

>> A VERY SWEET, WONDERFUL TIME.

I SPENT MY CHILDHOOD IN THAT AREA BEFORE THERE WERE ALL HOUSES THERE JUST AROUND THE RANCH IN THE VINEYARD, AND WE WERE OUT AWAY FROM -- THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AROUND, BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY FEAR OF DANGER, AND WE JUST ENJOYED THE AREA FOR ITS BEAUTY.

>> Reporter: LIKE THE POWAY WINERY, NOW JUST A MEMORY ABOUT SAN DIEGO.

>> AND KEN KRAMER HAS A HALF HOUR OF STORIES EVERY WEEK ABOUT SAN DIEGO, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AT 8:00 RIGHT HERE ON KPBS.

AND YOU CAN FIND TONIGHT'S STORIES ON OUR WEBSITE, KPBS.ORG.

WELL, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

I'M MAYA ABULSI.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.